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+ | =Requests= | ||
+ | Creating this section to put requests for actions that require administration privilege. It's easier/better than emailing [btw: the 'email this user' link has no email set-up for 'Admin'] and it's more likely that the Admin will see a request if placed here rather than burying it on a Talk page. I dunno, just trying this out, really... good/bad idea? Maybe create these on their own page rather than hijacking the Admin user page? I moved the discussion about Google bots in here... since that got buried amongst the Mega Minis/Hobby Products edits I've been doing...<br> | ||
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+ | ==Cattwister's Requests== | ||
+ | * Earliest revision of [[:image:MetalMagic-fantasy-4b.jpg|MetalMagic-fantasy-4b.jpg]] is the wrong figure and can be deleted. Picture in the Black Catalog shows the correct figures.--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | * Please delete the Real Partha [[CS Line]] article - I merged the contents of this page into the [[Fantasy Collector Series]] page; this page was a duplicate - previously spotted on the [[Talk:CS Line|CS Line - Talk]] page.--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | * In merging the [[CS Line]] into the [[Fantasy Collector Series]] I found several images that were *exact* duplicates of each other (i.e. the same file uploaded under different filenames) - the following can be deleted:--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | **(some of these images are used on 'Meta' pages - see later bullet point about [[Tall Elves]] on this) | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Cs1.jpg|Cs1.jpg]] is an exact duplicate of [[:Image:Rp-02-001.jpg|Rp-02-001.jpg]] | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Rp-02-011.jpg]] is a cut down version of [[:Image:Cs11.jpg]] - I prefer CS11.jpg over this one | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Cs15.jpg]] is a catalog scan - we already have one that is as good | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Cs16.jpg]] is an exact duplicate of [[:Image:Rp-02-016.jpg]] | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Cs39a.jpg]] is an exact duplicate of [[:Image:Rp-02-039a.jpg]] | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Cs39b.jpg]] is an exact duplicate of [[:Image:Rp-02-039b.jpg]] | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Cs39c.jpg]] is an exact duplicate of [[:Image:Rp-02-039c.jpg]] | ||
+ | **[[:Image:Cs39a.jpg]],[[:Image:Cs39b.jpg]],[[:Image:Cs39c.jpg]],[[:Image:Cs39d.jpg]] - these 4 are the exact same images as [[:Image:Rp-02-039a.jpg]],[[:Image:Rp-02-039b.jpg]],[[:Image:Rp-02-039c.jpg]],[[:Image:Rp-02-039d.jpg]] etc (except b&a have swapped places and c&d have as well - there is no reason for this, the CS versions can go | ||
+ | * [[:Image:Cs11.jpg]] could do with resizing.--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | * {{clink|Privateer Press}} is missing from the Main Page.--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | * {{clink|Black Tree Design}} is missing from the Main Page.--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | * My mistakes:--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | ** [[:Image:IKore-Celtos-211a.jpg]] <= earliest version is a mistake, wrong figure, could you delete this? | ||
+ | ** [[:Image:MetalMagic-C1018q-blister.jpg]] <= earliest version is not needed (I upped the contrast and brightness on the new image) | ||
+ | * [[:Image:Reaperlines.jpg]] can be deleted as I have converted this into a table and put it onto its own page : [[Reference - Reaper Product Lines]].--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | =Discussions= | ||
+ | ==Google Not Indexing Images== | ||
+ | :On a related side-note, I've noticed that Google doesn't index the images on the Wiki very well (almost at all) due, I think, to our file naming conventions and a lack of captions? A Google '''image''' search like "site:miniatures-workshop.com wizard" only pulls back 4 hits, "site:miniatures-workshop.com MetalMagic" pulls back 1, site:miniatures-workshop.com RalPartha" 5 hits. Whereas this: "site:solegends.com Minotaur" pulls back a ton of hits - the solegends filenames have either "Minotaur" in them or the image is close to "Minotaur" as text on the web page that Google has indexed. Likewise with "site:collecting-citadel-miniatures.com Minotaur" we get lots of hits. But the Lost Minis Wiki gets 1 hit with "site:miniatures-workshop.com Minotaur" - and it's not a Minotaur! It could also be that Google doesn't index wikis? Or that the wiki forbids image indexing (robots.txt, I think)? Obviously, what I would like to do is a Google image search like "site:miniatures-workshop.com MetalMagic" and simply scroll through all pictures on the Lost Minis Wiki that are "MetalMagic" related until I find something that matches the unknown mini in front of me.--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 11:16, 9 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | :: That is a good point, I never noticed that. I don't think that it is due to the filenames and/or captions, do a google image search for just "site:miniatures-workshop.com" and you only get a couple dozen results (mostly outside the wiki itself). From that I infer that they are not indexing the images on the wiki at all. Filenames and captions would be more an issue of how accurate the indexing is, at least I would think. Other wikis seem to work fine with google image search, so I don't think it is anything about wikis per-se either. So, I'm assuming it is something about how this site is configured, but I have no idea how/why that would be. --[[User:Thegrouch|Thegrouch]] 02:26, 10 June 2014 (BST) | ||
+ | :: Well, I looked at the robots.txt for the site and the only thing excluded is the msnbot user-agent (which probably explain why Bing search doesn't work for the site even for regular non-image searches). ... I've got no idea why Google doesn't see any of the wiki images. --[[User:Thegrouch|Thegrouch]] 08:17, 10 June 2014 (BST) | ||
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+ | Some time last year this site was brought down by the Google bot, it was indexing the site many times a day, requesting hundreds of pages at once. I tried many ways to restrict the bots activity to something that wouldn't crash the site, but it wouldn't play fair, I even contacted Google to ask them to tame their bot, but unsurprisingly they were too busy to notice me. In the end I was forced to prevented Google from continuing to index the site. I can't remember how I did it now, I'd have to check through some setting to remember. --[[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:45, 13 June 2014 (BST) | ||
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+ | OK, I've just checked through and found the robots exclusion code in the .htaccess file. Since the problems noted above, we had a hosting upgrade, which allows far more bandwidth usage than we had, so I've commented out the exclusion code. Theoretically search engine robots shouldn't be able crash the site now, but we'll see. Finger crossed. --[[User:Admin|Admin]] 12:49, 14 June 2014 (BST) | ||
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+ | ==Meta-Gallery Pages== | ||
+ | Re: [[Tall Elves]], and several other Meta-gallery pages like this... These are not helpful from an editor's point of view (IMO). Maintaining them properly is never going to happen as they add to the burden of uploading new images - "What Meta-galleries do I also have to hook this image in to?" They ''are'' a nice idea but pages like this need to be automatically generated (scraped from the site somehow?). I put in a request about *deleting* duplicate images and some of those duplicates are now found *only* on these meta-gallery pages. Since these pages have a disclaimer that they will not be kept up-to-date, I have not updated them - but it will still seem that these pictures are in use because of these pages. I suggest the meta-gallery pages be deleted. Excessive? Or are we okay with just leaving stale pages lying around?--[[User:Cattwister|Cattwister]] 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST) |
Revision as of 08:40, 17 June 2014
Contents
Requests
Creating this section to put requests for actions that require administration privilege. It's easier/better than emailing [btw: the 'email this user' link has no email set-up for 'Admin'] and it's more likely that the Admin will see a request if placed here rather than burying it on a Talk page. I dunno, just trying this out, really... good/bad idea? Maybe create these on their own page rather than hijacking the Admin user page? I moved the discussion about Google bots in here... since that got buried amongst the Mega Minis/Hobby Products edits I've been doing...
Cattwister's Requests
- Earliest revision of MetalMagic-fantasy-4b.jpg is the wrong figure and can be deleted. Picture in the Black Catalog shows the correct figures.--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
- Please delete the Real Partha CS Line article - I merged the contents of this page into the Fantasy Collector Series page; this page was a duplicate - previously spotted on the CS Line - Talk page.--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
- In merging the CS Line into the Fantasy Collector Series I found several images that were *exact* duplicates of each other (i.e. the same file uploaded under different filenames) - the following can be deleted:--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
- (some of these images are used on 'Meta' pages - see later bullet point about Tall Elves on this)
- Cs1.jpg is an exact duplicate of Rp-02-001.jpg
- Image:Rp-02-011.jpg is a cut down version of Image:Cs11.jpg - I prefer CS11.jpg over this one
- Image:Cs15.jpg is a catalog scan - we already have one that is as good
- Image:Cs16.jpg is an exact duplicate of Image:Rp-02-016.jpg
- Image:Cs39a.jpg is an exact duplicate of Image:Rp-02-039a.jpg
- Image:Cs39b.jpg is an exact duplicate of Image:Rp-02-039b.jpg
- Image:Cs39c.jpg is an exact duplicate of Image:Rp-02-039c.jpg
- Image:Cs39a.jpg,Image:Cs39b.jpg,Image:Cs39c.jpg,Image:Cs39d.jpg - these 4 are the exact same images as Image:Rp-02-039a.jpg,Image:Rp-02-039b.jpg,Image:Rp-02-039c.jpg,Image:Rp-02-039d.jpg etc (except b&a have swapped places and c&d have as well - there is no reason for this, the CS versions can go
- Image:Cs11.jpg could do with resizing.--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
- Privateer Press is missing from the Main Page.--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
- Black Tree Design is missing from the Main Page.--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
- My mistakes:--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
- Image:IKore-Celtos-211a.jpg <= earliest version is a mistake, wrong figure, could you delete this?
- Image:MetalMagic-C1018q-blister.jpg <= earliest version is not needed (I upped the contrast and brightness on the new image)
- Image:Reaperlines.jpg can be deleted as I have converted this into a table and put it onto its own page : Reference - Reaper Product Lines.--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)
Discussions
Google Not Indexing Images
- On a related side-note, I've noticed that Google doesn't index the images on the Wiki very well (almost at all) due, I think, to our file naming conventions and a lack of captions? A Google image search like "site:miniatures-workshop.com wizard" only pulls back 4 hits, "site:miniatures-workshop.com MetalMagic" pulls back 1, site:miniatures-workshop.com RalPartha" 5 hits. Whereas this: "site:solegends.com Minotaur" pulls back a ton of hits - the solegends filenames have either "Minotaur" in them or the image is close to "Minotaur" as text on the web page that Google has indexed. Likewise with "site:collecting-citadel-miniatures.com Minotaur" we get lots of hits. But the Lost Minis Wiki gets 1 hit with "site:miniatures-workshop.com Minotaur" - and it's not a Minotaur! It could also be that Google doesn't index wikis? Or that the wiki forbids image indexing (robots.txt, I think)? Obviously, what I would like to do is a Google image search like "site:miniatures-workshop.com MetalMagic" and simply scroll through all pictures on the Lost Minis Wiki that are "MetalMagic" related until I find something that matches the unknown mini in front of me.--Cattwister 11:16, 9 June 2014 (BST)
- That is a good point, I never noticed that. I don't think that it is due to the filenames and/or captions, do a google image search for just "site:miniatures-workshop.com" and you only get a couple dozen results (mostly outside the wiki itself). From that I infer that they are not indexing the images on the wiki at all. Filenames and captions would be more an issue of how accurate the indexing is, at least I would think. Other wikis seem to work fine with google image search, so I don't think it is anything about wikis per-se either. So, I'm assuming it is something about how this site is configured, but I have no idea how/why that would be. --Thegrouch 02:26, 10 June 2014 (BST)
- Well, I looked at the robots.txt for the site and the only thing excluded is the msnbot user-agent (which probably explain why Bing search doesn't work for the site even for regular non-image searches). ... I've got no idea why Google doesn't see any of the wiki images. --Thegrouch 08:17, 10 June 2014 (BST)
Some time last year this site was brought down by the Google bot, it was indexing the site many times a day, requesting hundreds of pages at once. I tried many ways to restrict the bots activity to something that wouldn't crash the site, but it wouldn't play fair, I even contacted Google to ask them to tame their bot, but unsurprisingly they were too busy to notice me. In the end I was forced to prevented Google from continuing to index the site. I can't remember how I did it now, I'd have to check through some setting to remember. --Admin 22:45, 13 June 2014 (BST)
OK, I've just checked through and found the robots exclusion code in the .htaccess file. Since the problems noted above, we had a hosting upgrade, which allows far more bandwidth usage than we had, so I've commented out the exclusion code. Theoretically search engine robots shouldn't be able crash the site now, but we'll see. Finger crossed. --Admin 12:49, 14 June 2014 (BST)
Meta-Gallery Pages
Re: Tall Elves, and several other Meta-gallery pages like this... These are not helpful from an editor's point of view (IMO). Maintaining them properly is never going to happen as they add to the burden of uploading new images - "What Meta-galleries do I also have to hook this image in to?" They are a nice idea but pages like this need to be automatically generated (scraped from the site somehow?). I put in a request about *deleting* duplicate images and some of those duplicates are now found *only* on these meta-gallery pages. Since these pages have a disclaimer that they will not be kept up-to-date, I have not updated them - but it will still seem that these pictures are in use because of these pages. I suggest the meta-gallery pages be deleted. Excessive? Or are we okay with just leaving stale pages lying around?--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)